State of the Church in Christian Identity

William Finck’s
Christogenea Talkshoe Program for 8-17-13, Saturday 8:00pm

with Pastors Don Elmore and Mark Downey
of the
Fellowship of God’s Covenant People in northern Kentucky

Subject:  State of the Church in Christian Identity

A general discussion about church life in our movement and the importance of worship and fellowshipping together

The Perfect Sermon Part 1

This is a Bible study on perfection and what Matthew 5:48 means by "Be ye perfect".  The perfecting of Israel is the preparation of the heart for living in the Kingdom of God.

by Pastor Mark Downey

August 25, 2013

Scripture Reading:  Matthew 5:44-48

I don’t mean for the title to sound pretentious, but this is a Bible study on perfection.  To assuage any misapprehensions and to state my case early, I won’t be talking about sinless perfection, for “If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar and His word is not in us” I John 1:10.  In today’s reading of Matthew, the point in question is not the sinlessness of God or His Creation of supernatural perfection, but rather our growth into a maturity of godliness; not to be Christ, but to be like Christ.  We’ve seen the bumper sticker ‘We’re not perfect – just forgiven.’  If we were perfect, there would be nothing to forgive.  So what does it mean to be perfect like God?  Do we become gods?  God forbid, that would be the deification of man and there is only one God in Christianity, “There is none else” (Isaiah 45:5).  Obviously, God knew the future and made the #1 commandment to preempt anyone, “Who is opposing and exalting himself above everything said to be a god” (II Thes. 2:4) with “Thou shalt have no other gods before Me” (Ex. 20:2).

The Perfect Sermon

by Pastor Mark Downey

Part 1:  This is a Bible study on perfection and what Matthew 5:48 means by "Be ye perfect".  The perfecting of Israel is the preparation of the heart for living in the Kingdom of God.

Part 2:  An explanation of "the mystery of the gospel" (Eph. 6:19); examination of "White Supremacy"; and how love will make a Christian perfect.

Part 3:  Our perfect God of Israel is not the god of Trinitarians.  A thorough debunking of the Catholic-jewish-Masonic Trinity and the interpolation of I John 5:7-8.

Part 4:  The phrase 'God's plan for the Ages' is expounded upon and further illustrated with God's original twelve signs of the zodiac.

The Religious Test Part 2

by Pastor Mark Downey

August 11, 2013

Scripture Reading:  Isaiah 66:8

The united States began when God’s punishment upon Israel expired, if you believe the prophecy of 2520 years, otherwise known as ‘the seven times punishment,’ which began in 745BC with the Assyrian captivity and ended in 1776; July 4th to be exact.  Even more specific and interesting, we can calculate the captivity of Manasseh, which is America, going into captivity in 732BC and coming out of that captivity 2520 years later in the year 1789, the ratification of the Constitution.  All of the tribes of Israel went into captivity at different times and all came out of their respective captivities at different times that coincide with the founding of the European nations and their Constitutions.   Do we ignore these numbers or do we do the math and surmise that God is telling us something? 

The Religious Test Part 1

by Pastor Mark Downey

July 28, 2013

Scripture Reading: Exodus 19:3-8

When Moses received the test question from God, the people answered in the affirmative.  This was a religious test even though the words religion and religious are misnomers.  A misnomer is something that is named in error.  One of the first things I learned in Christian Identity is that Christianity is not a religion; it’s a way of life.  Religions are man-made.  Christianity is made by God.  The word religion comes from the Latin ‘religio’ and means ‘to bind anew.’  This word seems originally to have signified an oath or vow to the gods, or an obligation, which was held to be very sacred during the Roman Empire.  However, 200 years ago in America, religion was often synonymous with Christianity for all intents and purposes.  It was the test itself that was the principle of controversy in more recent times.

The Religious Test

by Pastor Mark Downey

Part 1:  A message defending the faith of our fathers, the heritage of True Israel and the hope we must transfer to our posterity; a challenge to the traditions of tyrants, that Christianity proclaims liberty; the importance of where and when a 'religious test' is appropriate and biblical.

Part 2:  A presentation as to why the religious test remained with the states and not the federal government; addressing the arguments leveled against the founding fathers regarding jewish and Masonic conspiracies.

The Joys of Tribulation

The difficulties in life from trials and tribulations are part of God's design to help us mature in Christ.

by Pastor Mark Downey

July 1, 2013

Scripture Reading:  Romans 5:1-11

I no sooner commenced to sitting down with a yellow legal note pad to write down this message, when a bird in the backyard began squawking. I wondered, "What's his problem." It sounded like some kind of warning, rather than the happy chirping of an early bird catching a worm. Perhaps another animal was encroaching upon his meal.

I love how the Holy Spirit works. Before I began to write anything about tribulation, the sounds of God's creation gave me a sermon example from the get-go. Through this otherwise mundane morning activity of nature, it came to my mind of a situation we had last year in our driveway.

Pagan Christianity Part 2

by Pastor Mark Downey

June 16, 2013

Scripture Reading: Hebrews 10:19-25

The authors tell you “Reading this book takes courage” not because of its contents, but what you must do after you read it.  I say it takes perseverance to wade through the misconceptions they’ve given, because the book is a smokescreen for a new spiritual fad and fads are wrought with bait and hook.  They are not fishers of men, but poachers.  If you’re already disgruntled with whatever typical church is out there, then this is an easy excuse to find not only an alternative church, but an alternative Jesus.  Or maybe you’ll just drop out of being a Christian altogether. 

After they put a burden of guilt upon you, you are primed for the next step of participating in spontaneous anarchy in the name of “the Church.”  The point of this review is not to make a big deal about the origin of church practices and how we worship, but to warn you of how our faith can be undermined by an even more hideous hyper-apostasy than churchianity, which calls itself “organic,” as if that makes it pure as the driven snow. 

The church or ecclesia must be understood in the context of race.  If the race card is not played, then you have a stacked deck.  In other words, if the relevance of Israel in the Bible is trivialized with universalism, then the church itself is corrupted.  

Pagan Christianity Part 1

by Pastor Mark Downey

June 2, 2013

Scripture Reading: Isaiah 55:6-11

I received a copy of this book in the mail from our Australian friend, Hank Roelofs of Christian Identity Ministries.  Evidently, it is causing some controversy over there and here as an idea that is either loved or hated; and he had an uncomfortable feeling about it and asked if I would review it.  While the book purports to support 1st century Christianity (and guess what? So do I, but not the way they do), Hank said it seemed to have the odor of rebellion (citing Korah, Dathan and Abiram in Numbers 16, which we will look at later on).  He suspects a rather effective disruption to Christian thought through the wedge of ‘divide and conquer,’ but couldn’t quite put his finger on it.  I think I can point the fickle finger of fate to these authors who have written a book paved with good intentions and where that road leads to. 

The most important thing I could ascertain from this book is that it was void of the same thing it was chastising i.e. the modern church and that is identifying the people for whom the Bible was written and what their responsibilities are. 

Pagan Christianity

by Pastor Mark Downey

This is a review of a book about the pagan influence upon the Christian church. 

Part 1: A so-called organic church movement to destroy conventional church worship and practices is countered by a Christian Identity perspective with historical and biblical facts.

Part 2:  This book review refutes the spiritual anarchy to eliminate church buildings; i.e. the hallowed ground reserved for White-only congregations, sermons and pastors, dress codes.  A commentary of Numbers 16 as it pertains to the authors of 'Pagan Christianity'.